Friday, December 16, 2005

Just Great

Guest blogger at Washington Monthly Hilzoy gets to the bottom of how the torture bill deal was passed. It's too bad that what's at the bottom of it all is so low. If evidence obtained through torture is going to be admitted into tribunals (not even courts!), this is a huge step backward. It will only encourage torture, and let useless "evidence" into the tribunals to boot. Imagine being convicted (or put to death) by a secret tribunal on the basis of a statement extracted from you by torture.

I'm incredulous that this administration has taken upon itself to construct its own reality, but has decided to make the world a worse place, rather than a better one.


Anonymous said...

It's not the information extracted from you by torture that you have to worry about -- it's the information extracted from your cellmates. As the al-Libi case proves, you can pretty much extract any goddamn information you please, the truth be damned, from whomever you please.

-- ACS

Sara E Anderson said...

Good point, dammit.

Anonymous said...

I wholeheartedly agree with your post.
A victim of torture wants the torture to stop. That's all.
If it's clear it will only stop when the victim is either dead or tells the torturers what they want to hear, they'll say whatever they have to, true or not.

This approach worked real well during the witch trials. Who knew so many seemingly normal Puritan men and women were actually cursing their neighbors and cavorting naked with Satan every night? They confessed (under torture) so it must be true!
*subtle sarcasm*

Maybe the current administration ought to put the bibles away and crack open a history book instead...